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In a world going the way of automation, is there still value in learning manual machining and part-making?

What’s the future of manual machining? How is manual machining used to teach the next generation of machine operators, CNC machine programmers and process engineers today? We asked manufacturing professionals and instructors from different regions to find out.

Will manual manufacturing still exist in the future? For learning the fundamentals, all the industry professionals we interviewed say it is still essential.

As automation becomes more and more central to manufacturing, technological skills do play a leading role. But there are dynamics between physical part-making, a machine’s capabilities, and programming and modeling software that still require an understanding of manual practices.  

But will it be changing in the future? Industry analysts believe automation will change job functions and roles over the long haul.

“[F]ewer than 5 percent of occupations can be entirely automated by adapting currently demonstrated technology,” writes McKinsey in its article “Human + Machine: A New Era of Automation in Manufacturing.” “However, about 60 percent of them could have 30 percent or more of their constituent activities automated. In other words, just by adapting and integrating current technology, automation could change—at least to some degree—the majority of occupations.” 

Technical colleges, four-year degree programs and manufacturers themselves are keen to adapt—but they are also still grounded in today’s reality: People are still at the heart of manufacturing. The demand for a skilled workforce requires a hybrid set of technology skills including machine programming and critical knowledge of part-making inside a machine. That isn’t going away—even if automation can help narrow processes and fill gaps, manufacturers will always need problem solvers. And problems can only be solved with a solid understanding of functions and outcomes, say experts.

How can you help find the skills you need? Read “This MFG Day: Shrink the Skills Gap, Hire Apprentices.”

Leveraging Manual Milling Machines to Teach the Fundamentals

Joe Vanstrom is a lecturer at Iowa State University in the industrial manufacturing program and has taught professionally for 12 years. He’s a big believer in learning the fundamentals of part-making and how machines work.

“For every student, I make them turn down a step shaft,” says Vanstrom. “Just so they understand taking a pass on a diameter or how to machine off the face of a part, because if you don’t understand the dynamics between your tools, your workpiece and the machine’s capabilities, you’re going to snap a lot of tools before you get a good part.”

It’s also important to understand the limitations of a machine’s throughput performance and ability to handle different tool lengths—and other part-making features. When students and apprentice machinists better understand how machines work and how parts are physically made by hand, they can more easily account for the parameters needed when programming and designing toolpaths on larger, more advanced CNC machines, explains Vanstrom.

Jose Anaya, the dean of community and student advancement at El Camino College in Los Angeles, agrees. Students today are very visual and gravitate toward 3D modeling and computers and are very interested in additive 3D printing manufacturing—but learning how to make parts and using their hands with tools are really important for first being a technician in manufacturing, says Anaya.

“You’ve got to know the basics,” he says. “But we take students on a path toward advancement with higher-level machines and automation.”

To that end, El Camino College is teaching students how to get comfortable with cobots and robotics that perform “pick and pull” tasks—and how to manage the programming and process engineering behind it. And manufacturers are asking for these skills from apprentices and new hires, says Anaya. El Camino participates in the Aero-Flex pre-apprenticeship program with Northrop Grumman and many other aerospace companies in Southern California.

“After some experience, an operator can start to hear the machine differently,” says Vanstrom. “They start to pick up that a machine is not sounding right, when tools wear or whether the pH is off in the coolant percentage … These things help the operator understand how to get the most out of their machine’s work.”

Fundamentally, these programs want to make sure that their students understand how to make good chips, how to make tools last and how to get to and identify good surface finishes.

“After some experience, an operator can start to hear the machine differently. They start to pick up that a machine is not sounding right, when tools wear or whether the pH is off in the coolant percentage … These things help the operator understand how to get the most out of their machine’s work.”
Joe Vanstrom
Lecturer, Iowa State University, Industrial Manufacturing Program

Does Manufacturing Automation and Software Make Things Too Easy?

Is manufacturing software and automation making things too simple and push-button? Sometimes it can, but there is a balance between technology being useful and it being overkill.

“Yes, but that is a good and positive thing,” says Anaya. “But the fallacy of that is that you still need to understand what you are doing—and what is going on behind the software.”

Productivity software and other automation are not always the exact solution—if you do not know how to properly apply them to your exact business needs. Case in point: One of El Camino College’s manufacturing partners, a small aerospace manufacturer in Gardena, California, bought software that failed to meet its needs—and went back to doing things manually. After working with El Camino, the company found the right way to apply the software—and eventually made it work. But it took some rethinking and effort to get its processes right.

“Software is making it better, but I don’t think it’s making it too easy,” says Kyle Lattenhauer, a manufacturing engineering supervisor for two divisions of Young & Franklin and Tactair in Liverpool, New York. These two divisions make fluid control parts for the power generation and aerospace segments. Lattenhauer has over 25 years of manufacturing experience.

“Software is the necessary connection,” he says. “But I can tell you there are people in this shop that’ll disagree with me … some people who have been doing things here the same way for 20 years and cannot see how software [and automation] is not replacing them.”

So why use it? Using software and automation practices is more efficient. You can do more complex features a lot easier and reasonably, he explains.

“You have a lot more freedom once you understand the machine to make one-offs accurately,” says Lattenhauer. “Before, it took weeks to make a part … There were just so many setups—especially in the aerospace side of things where there is so much sculpting, so much blending.”

Plus, there are some parts today that you just cannot make without a CNC machine. There are radii that you just can’t get to without one, he says.

What has your experience been with manual and automated machining? Share with your peers.

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This is a touchy topic for many shops. Personally, when I can set up a manual lathe to chase damaged threads on a critical part then I feel like these skills are indespensable. When I can program and run a part in a 5axis mill and the part comes off finished I feel like there's not a better way to have made that part. Trying to perform mods to prototype parts on CNC equipment can kill a lot of time. Especially if the new feature is just a hole. Trying to set up a boring head in a bridgeport just to make a certain radius feels like a crazy waste of time when the CNC will cut any arc you want as easily as it will a straight line.

The point is: dont be the hammer that sees everything as a nail. :) Know all the available tools, and use them for what they are best at.

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Great advice! Thank you Morgan. And thank you for visiting Better MRO.

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We often talk about having a feel for manual machining and how important it is. But what if that "feel" is the wrong "feel". I can still remember the day I was standing at a cnc mill with numbers to run. My experience said I was doing was crazy. The sound was not like any cut i had ever made. I thought it was a failure in the making, but I had to decide if i would trust the numbers. That day I laid aside my manual "feel" and trusted the numbers and the parts went from 8 min to 3 min. The company I worked for in the next year doubled our output, by trusting the numbers. I am not saying all of those skills should be left behind. (Morgan Oliff made that point well above.) But we need to make sure our "feel" is not holding us back.

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Thanks for sharing your experience Aubrin.

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I feel that manual machine is the foundation of the industry. I think that CNC machine operators, machinist, programmers , and most of all engineers. Should have a minimum of two to three years experience on manuals machines and CNC machines. For a good foundation of the field of machining from start to finish on the shop floor. Witch would help the process from the drafting table ( computer ) to the finished product.

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We appreciate your point of view Steve.

This topic seems to be generating some great commentary. We've added a topic to discuss this in our Forum for anyone else who wants to continue the converstion over there.

https://www.mscdirect.com/betterMRO/forums/manufacturing-maestros/skills...

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63 yrs old, manual machine operator , just got a used herco cnc mill looking for on line info to learn codes and machine operation Thanks Jim

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Hi Jim, congrats on the new mill! Have you checked out our article on G-Codes & M-Codes? https://www.mscdirect.com/betterMRO/metalworking/machine-programming-lan...
Also, feel free to pose questions to our Metalworking Techs over on our Better MRO forum: https://www.mscdirect.com/betterMRO/forum

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So, the very first thing I noticed in the headline picture was this: Two guys in hard hats, one with his hearing protection off (it may not have been noisy yet), and no eye protection anywhere in sight, standing in front of a lathe.
The bare minimum in any fab shop is safety glasses once you hit the door. There are tons of stock photos out there, stop using the ones that flagrantly show safety violations.

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We apologize for the sub-par stock photo used for this feature. Please believe us when we say we are continually trying to improve what stock photos are used on this site. Unfortunately, the selection isn’t always the most ideal, it is an evolving effort on our part, and we appreciate and agree with your concerns, Kenneth.

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Served a 4 year machinist apprenticeship in the early 1960's. It was the best education you could ever ask for. Every aspect of the trade addressed. Trained on everything from jewelers lathe to huge boring mills.

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That is an excellent way to gain a wealth of knowledge and experience. Thank you for sharing, Duncan!

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What about when you're new to the trade and your employer won't properly train? What if you want to learn but don't have the time to do so outside of work? Is the onus on the worker or the employer? The employer wants the skilled employee but doesn't want to take the time to develop said skills. How do we reconcile these factors in the age of more, more, more?

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Those are absolutely viable concerns, Jordan. And very good questions. It is a shame, (and we feel a valuable loss not only to the worker but also to the employer who would benefit from increasing the skills of their workforce) not to offer proper training for industry jobs. There are a good deal of outside resources to turn to (Tooling-U SME, for one), but we understand the challenge of balancing work/life schedules. We would love to hear what the community has to say on these issues.

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I think industry is finally realizing that the well is dry with experienced machinists. that not training all these years is not good - plus the big push for kids to go to 4 yr college. and on top of that MFG is just plain busy.

But I think a good time to be a machinist as it will be high demand. When I started in 1984 the CNC machine was just getting very popular. I was new but the old-timers did not want to touch them. Good for us young guys.

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I teach the same way I learned in my late 20's. I attended a 3 months school out side of Boston that taught us only real basic manual machining, blue print reading and measuring. in 1984. Then first job was at a job shop with all CNC. I now have 30+ years experience all the way up to 5 axis and worked at biggest defense contractors, medical implant etc.

what I teach are just fundamentals - how to square a block and what is square - grind a lathe tool and make a spacer - use a boring bar in manual lathe - drill and tap on Bport - how to use a surface grinder - and also how to modify tools for the CNC with same grinder- etc. Core skills but used in a way that makes sense in the modern shop.

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 as a retired pipefitter welder i worked on large control valves at steam power houses. welding new seats in them. it shocked me that the guys who done the final fit up didn't make what i did. now my youngest son learned to run a cnc machine in high school. He had to teach his teacher how to run it because he couldn't do it. i Hope i taught him the basics to fall back on. when i went thru basic Aviation mechincal school in the navy i shocked the instructor by being able to cut a 1" square block an draw file it to specs. Thanks to my dad. Yes basics will always come into play learn learn.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. If you'd like to continue to share your wisdom, we invite you to our Forum. The incoming generation of tradespeople could probably learn a lot from you. Thanks for visiting. 

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It makes sense that technological skills are playing more of a role now that machining is taking over. My husband is trying to find a new job now that he has been laid off of his office work. Maybe he could look into CNC machining. https://www.aeromechanism.com/

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We have a son who is a self taught machinist. He has bought himself lathes and milling machines and restored them and uses them to make his own parts.  It seems that he's very talented with this stuff, and does do machining for one person pretty much full time, and for an inventor part time.  My grandfather was a machinist, and my dad is an engineer. I feel like he has these incredible skills, and yet I think it would be great for him to also have a mentor. He learns everything from the internet. Are there schools for this type of machining? I think he would make a really good teacher... he's extremely patient.

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Hi Laurie - There are schools for machining and there is a need to train and educate the incoming generation. We recommend you look up local machining trade schools in your area or even an online program. Let us know if you need more specifics based on your  location. 

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